{Wednesday, August 09, 2006
. Deliverance}
Deliverance. Others call it exorcism. Basically it is the driving out of demons from a person to free them from the demons. And I was delivered two weeks ago. Here is my experience.
After a church service, Pastor Mike Connell, a person extremely gifted in deliverance had a special ministry session in which he'd call forth people to come down and he'd have a team of people to help him deliver people. When he called down a group of people that involved me I went down, not expecting much... after all, I did not think anything was wrong with me as my main purpose was to bring down some younger members to be delivered on similar issues.
However once I came down to the altar, I started feeling very heavy, and was shivering a bit. I rarely shiver as my tolerance for cold is far better than most people. Plus I was wearing a jacket. Inexplicable shivering but I thought maybe it was due to the loud speaker system from the worshippers. After helping some people find a helper to pray for them and deliver them, I watched a spectacle around me as I saw people screaming, falling, shouting and writhing among other actions. A little frightening if you are not used to it. And I don't blame them.
After a while a helper prayed for me, and immediately i began weeping. I kept crying crying while being prayed for... I have never cried so hard in my life. It was shocking, I was trying to stop my tears but they kept flowing and eventually I fell down to the floor, still crying. There was a person to hold me and he slowly let go of me as I lay weeping on the floor. The helper (named Alvin) continued to pray for me and continued to speak against the demon(s) inside me. I was still crying and did not feel anything different, so I thought maybe it was just one demon, but suddenly Alvin started commanding other spirits out of me in Jesus' name. "Spirit of torment, of darkness, of suffering, I cast you all out in Jesus' name!" and I began to cough, so extreme that I would have thrown up if not the the fact that I had not eaten the entire day. I was writhing and shaking on the floor, trying to squirm out but other helpers came in and held me down. He continued to pray against the aforementioned spirits and I convulsed and nearly threw up again. It was agony, and all that time tears were still pouring down my face!
Eventually three or four helpers came to pray for me and after a small choke I breathed in and breathed in more air than I had for a long time. It was as though something had been lifted from me (mainly due to the fact that something had been lifted) and my tears were thinning extremely compared to the bucketfuls I poured out earlier... my jacket sleeve was very wet. At once Alvin spoke to me and encouraged me, then began to pray for inner healing and protection. After that I stood up and noticed I was one of the last to leave and I felt very weak, tired, but such a burden lifted from me. Thank You God, for delivering me from those spirits.
Theologically, many Christians do not believe that believers can be demonized. They believe that with the Holy Spirit in you, other demons cannot take the place of the Holy Spirit. Good arguments, but I believe otherwise, apart from the fact that I'm a living testimony myself. When a person does somehow open a door for a spirit to come in, who says it needs to dwell in the belly, where the Holy Spirit is said to dwell? I believe that with "permission" from the believer, the spirit can stay as long as it wants. We are sinful beings yet a Holy Spirit dwells in us, so why can't an evil spirit dwell in us as well? Great is the Holy Spirit in power but God respects all decisions and if a person keeps an evil spirit with the Holy Spirit in him, God respects that, as much as He dislikes it.
Need some Bible arguments? In Matthew 12:22-32, it was about Jesus casting out demons and the Pharisees accusing Him of doing that through Beelzebub's power instead of God's. Jesus Himself acknowledged the fact that Pharisees drove out demons too in verse 27. Perhaps the hypocrites did not but Jesus acknowledges that Pharisees have driven out demons before. Both come from the power of God. As the Pharisees were extremely proud people and would not associate with sinners at all, it is hard to believe that the Pharisees would then pray and cast out demons from them, which leads us to the fact that Pharisees drove out demons from people who were not considered sinners. People who believed in God. Thus believers were demonized.
Other arguments state that because the Holy Spirit dwells in us now, other spirits cannot come in. I have previously mentioned that and I believe my argument stands firm. Even if to some scholars or theologians it seems weak, I do not care. I have experienced myself and know it to be true, and so do many friends of mine. Truth is to be experienced, not written.
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Deliverance. Others call it exorcism. Basically it is the driving out of demons from a person to free them from the demons. And I was delivered two weeks ago. Here is my experience.
After a church service, Pastor Mike Connell, a person extremely gifted in deliverance had a special ministry session in which he'd call forth people to come down and he'd have a team of people to help him deliver people. When he called down a group of people that involved me I went down, not expecting much... after all, I did not think anything was wrong with me as my main purpose was to bring down some younger members to be delivered on similar issues.
However once I came down to the altar, I started feeling very heavy, and was shivering a bit. I rarely shiver as my tolerance for cold is far better than most people. Plus I was wearing a jacket. Inexplicable shivering but I thought maybe it was due to the loud speaker system from the worshippers. After helping some people find a helper to pray for them and deliver them, I watched a spectacle around me as I saw people screaming, falling, shouting and writhing among other actions. A little frightening if you are not used to it. And I don't blame them.
After a while a helper prayed for me, and immediately i began weeping. I kept crying crying while being prayed for... I have never cried so hard in my life. It was shocking, I was trying to stop my tears but they kept flowing and eventually I fell down to the floor, still crying. There was a person to hold me and he slowly let go of me as I lay weeping on the floor. The helper (named Alvin) continued to pray for me and continued to speak against the demon(s) inside me. I was still crying and did not feel anything different, so I thought maybe it was just one demon, but suddenly Alvin started commanding other spirits out of me in Jesus' name. "Spirit of torment, of darkness, of suffering, I cast you all out in Jesus' name!" and I began to cough, so extreme that I would have thrown up if not the the fact that I had not eaten the entire day. I was writhing and shaking on the floor, trying to squirm out but other helpers came in and held me down. He continued to pray against the aforementioned spirits and I convulsed and nearly threw up again. It was agony, and all that time tears were still pouring down my face!
Eventually three or four helpers came to pray for me and after a small choke I breathed in and breathed in more air than I had for a long time. It was as though something had been lifted from me (mainly due to the fact that something had been lifted) and my tears were thinning extremely compared to the bucketfuls I poured out earlier... my jacket sleeve was very wet. At once Alvin spoke to me and encouraged me, then began to pray for inner healing and protection. After that I stood up and noticed I was one of the last to leave and I felt very weak, tired, but such a burden lifted from me. Thank You God, for delivering me from those spirits.
Theologically, many Christians do not believe that believers can be demonized. They believe that with the Holy Spirit in you, other demons cannot take the place of the Holy Spirit. Good arguments, but I believe otherwise, apart from the fact that I'm a living testimony myself. When a person does somehow open a door for a spirit to come in, who says it needs to dwell in the belly, where the Holy Spirit is said to dwell? I believe that with "permission" from the believer, the spirit can stay as long as it wants. We are sinful beings yet a Holy Spirit dwells in us, so why can't an evil spirit dwell in us as well? Great is the Holy Spirit in power but God respects all decisions and if a person keeps an evil spirit with the Holy Spirit in him, God respects that, as much as He dislikes it.
Need some Bible arguments? In Matthew 12:22-32, it was about Jesus casting out demons and the Pharisees accusing Him of doing that through Beelzebub's power instead of God's. Jesus Himself acknowledged the fact that Pharisees drove out demons too in verse 27. Perhaps the hypocrites did not but Jesus acknowledges that Pharisees have driven out demons before. Both come from the power of God. As the Pharisees were extremely proud people and would not associate with sinners at all, it is hard to believe that the Pharisees would then pray and cast out demons from them, which leads us to the fact that Pharisees drove out demons from people who were not considered sinners. People who believed in God. Thus believers were demonized.
Other arguments state that because the Holy Spirit dwells in us now, other spirits cannot come in. I have previously mentioned that and I believe my argument stands firm. Even if to some scholars or theologians it seems weak, I do not care. I have experienced myself and know it to be true, and so do many friends of mine. Truth is to be experienced, not written.
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